Media Fail: Convention Preview

Cross-posted at Clintonistas for Obama.

The editor's of the Wall Street Journal inadvertently revealed that the media has already written the story on the Democratic National Convention.

"The one thing that Obama should never have agreed to is a roll-call vote with Hillary Clinton," says Jeff Birnbaum, a Washington Post columnist. Mr. Birnbaum nonetheless admits to being "so grateful that we are going to have a story, which is Hillary Clinton's attempt tacitly to take over the Obama victory, and that [story] will go through virtually every day of the convention" given how frequently Bill and Hillary Clinton are scheduled to appear before delegates.
I'm a little confused because I thought journalists were supposed to uncover the facts and report the story, not decide on the story and then interpret the facts to accomodate their storyline.

Although a plurality of Democrats believe that having Hillary's name put into nomination will be good for party unity, the media have already decided that the storyline in Denver will be Party Disunity as Hillary Tries to Steal Nomination. I guess McCain was onto something when he called the media "his base."



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No tip jar. (2.00 / 6)

This post is a little short...


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:03:57 PM EST

Too bad... (2.00 / 1)

You're just too good NOT to tip! :-D


No way, no how, no McCain! :-)
by atdleft on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:16:30 PM EST
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the media is a sick, sick animal. (2.00 / 5)

who does it serve???  its OWN interests.  and ill tell you from professional experience - they are failing in every way.  sales are down, circulation is down - its not pretty out there.  yet - THEY KEEP PUSHING THIS PILE OF SHITE.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:09:19 PM EST

It's about money, not reporting. (2.00 / 5)

I just didn't think that making money required sacrificing journalistic integrity.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:12:53 PM EST
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apparently so. (2.00 / 2)

i have never seen anything like this in my lifetime.  during the primary - when it was directed at clinton, people who opposed her chose to ignore this.  but now that we are in the GE its stark.  how about the press you know, report - instead of trying to get laid by the candidates?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:22:30 PM EST
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Re: apparently so. (2.00 / 3)

I gotta disagree with you here, CG--it wasn't "directed" at anybody.  I think it's a myth that the media directly favors one candidate or another in any given election.

What they care about is story lines, narratives, and they're perfectly happy to adopt whichever one seems like it will get the most play.  So we had Hillary Is Inevitable, we had Who Is This Insurgent Riding The Hopemobile?, we had Jermemiah Wright Is Profoundly Un-American, we had Hillary Clinton Is The Comeback Kid Just Like Her Husband, we had Why Is She Still In It She Can't Beat The Math, we had Eighteen Million Votes And MI/FL!, we had Hillary Turns To Racism To Capture The Appalachian Vote.

And now we have Obama Stumbling In Surefire Election, Needs Clinton to go along with various and sundry McCain narratives.  And there's nothing they'd like better than a story like Clintons Planning Putsch! because it has juice.  But watch: if all goes smoothly at the convention, as I'm sure it will, that narrative will quickly be dropped for Hillary Clinton Is A Paragon Of Selflessness And Party Unity.

I agree with Drew's diary that "the media," for lack of a better term, surely constructs narratives even when the facts aren't there.  But it's always tempting to find those narratives biased against our own candidate, and I just don't see that.

[Usual caveats and exceptions apply.]


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:01:05 PM EST
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Re: apparently so. (2.00 / 2)

i think we are in agreement.  i only mentioned the primary since so many (at least here at mydd) were in denial about the total failure of the media.

there are plenty of stories and analysis out there for them to report on - but they do not choose to.  instead they choose the most demeaning and salacious stories in hope of 'rekindling' the days where MSM was king.  its not anymore (ask any media buyer) yet they are not getting that people are turning to alternative sources for their news due to the crap they see in the MSM.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:06:54 PM EST
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alternative media (2.00 / 2)

Agreed.  What freaks me out about alternative media to the MSM is the ease with which we can simply tune out everything we don't agree with.  The MSM isn't "objective" in any meaningful sense of the word, of course, but for survival reasons it pitches its bias and analysis at a pretty broad swath of American society.  So if you watch TV and read print newspapers, it's pretty hard to ignore things like the growing acceptance of gay relationships in American culture or the fact that most Americans supported the invasion of Iraq.

With the Internet, it's a whole lot easier to pretend, as they do at RedState, that it's the 1950s and everybody agrees that gays are immoral or, as they do at Kos, that there really is a broad consensus that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake from the getgo.  So alternative media has a huge value in that it undermines MSM-constructed narratives.  But it also allows everybody to create their own, with the same distance from reality.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:24:18 PM EST
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I've just renewed my subscription to the Houston (none / 0)

Chronicle from weekly to week-end and only because I want the coupons, sales promotions and TV guide!


by suzieg on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 05:55:34 AM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 4)

Yeah, I also worry the Big Kitty Army will be prancing around getting lots of coverage on the Political shows.

Jerks like Darragh Murphy, who claims she is a "long time democratic activist" but has contributed ONCE to the Democrats in her entire life, 2 days before she formed PumaPac, just to give herself coverage.

Media-attention-freaks, looking for her 15 minutes of fame, and the media is stepping up to make it happen.


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:10:11 PM EST

Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 3)

And the media will treat them like a serious story.  Normally, they would ignore the protesters.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:16:48 PM EST
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Yep... (2.00 / 2)

I mean, how much time do the corporate media hacks spend talking about all the Republicans jumping off the "John McCrazy Bulls--t Doubletalk Express" to support Democrats? Hmmm... <crickets>

But because the PUMA McTrolls are available to bash Democrats & declare their love for McBush, the media gives them attention.


No way, no how, no McCain! :-)
by atdleft on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:21:48 PM EST
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I'm a PUMA but will never, ever vote for McCain or (1.00 / 2)

any republican but will vote 3rd party! The democratic party no longer represents my values!

It's yours now, do with it as you please, I don't care anymore! The coup of May 31st was the last straw, by selecting behind closed doors the night before, the republicant lite candidate who is against universal/mandated health care.


by suzieg on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:02:00 AM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 5)

It's pretty clear that these reporters are no longer following anything resembling journalistic ethics. But coming up with the story and then finding facts to accomodate it is hardly original. They learned it from the Bush administration.


by LakersFan on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:12:20 PM EST

True... (2.00 / 2)

And because it seems they'll do anything to help McBush, it figures they're trying to make Hillary into a piñata again.


No way, no how, no McCain! :-)
by atdleft on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:17:55 PM EST
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Re: True... (2.00 / 3)

You don't mean to imply that the media is biased, do you?


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:21:09 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 2)

I'd feel bad for Hillary, being maligned so badly by the press, just because her name is on the roll call.

But, honestly, I think she can handle those bastards.


by pomology on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:12:54 PM EST

Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 3)

The media is obsessed with all things Clinton.  Today the LA Times dedicated a blog post to whether or not she tried to avoid hugging Bill Richardson at a fundraiser and what it meant.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:19:33 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 2)

Lovely.

I should check and see if the NY Times had any bullshit like that today. Maybe it would explain why they had no room to talk about Africa.


by pomology on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:22:06 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 3)

A story about Africa would require them to actually get facts and report them.  Making up shit is much easier.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:24:35 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 2)

They also probably figure it's easier to get people riled about about Hillary Clinton, who, you know, just wants to help people, then get them riled about  Robert Mugabe, who just wants to fuck over his own citizens.


by pomology on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:30:04 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 2)

The press is morans, virtually all of them.

I think they are going to drive poor Hillary nuts, asking her about the Puma demonstrations.

That really sucks, it will take away from her place as part of the team, and they will make HER seem responsable for a group of petulant children acting out in her name...


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:22:36 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 3)

For better or worse, the Democratic Party depends on the performances of Bill and Hillary Clinton at the convention.


by rfahey22 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:24:51 PM EST

Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 3)

Fortunately, there positions in the party--and in the history books--also depend on their performances at the Convention.

I believe that they genuinely want Obama to will and will say/do whatever is necessary to help the party unite behind the nominee.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:29:18 PM EST
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why do you say that? (2.00 / 2)

and if you are correct - the irony abounds!


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:30:25 PM EST
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Re: why do you say that? (2.00 / 2)

Because they alone could upset this apparently pre-defined narrative, and maybe provide the catharsis that the event is supposed to generate.


by rfahey22 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:32:09 PM EST
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Re: why do you say that? (2.00 / 2)

I saw an interview with Howard Dean back in March or so.  The interviewer said that he was the most important person in bringing the party back together (they were discussing the MI-FL flap and the possibility of re-votes).

He said that he was not the most important person.  The loser of the primary was the most important person.  The loser would have to rally their supporters behind the winner or the nominee would be defeated.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:36:16 PM EST
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Re: why do you say that? (2.00 / 1)

Yeah.  It sucked to be Dean, it probably sucks to be the Clintons.  I'm sure they're more than up to it, though.


by rfahey22 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:39:22 PM EST
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Re: why do you say that? (2.00 / 2)

its pretty sad though when the loser of a semi final contest becomes responsible for the win their former rival in the final no?  i dont necessarily disagree with what you said in a way - but really HRC has done everything that has been asked of her.

whomever the VP choice is obama needs to reach out to clinton supporters like right away. pew poll say 28% (of 18 mil - you do the math) are not on board yet.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:01:52 PM EST
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Re: why do you say that? (2.00 / 1)

It's a thankless job, but that's the way it's always been, so far as I know.  The only difference this year is the closeness of the race.


by rfahey22 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 11:13:34 PM EST
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I pray, I pray that Obama has already anticipated this storyline and will move to preempt it with his VP pick...Hillary Clinton.


by MMR2 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:38:25 PM EST

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I hope so too so all these dipshit PUMA punks have to find their new reason to support the most bellicose, anti women rights president ever over the scary black man!!!!


by Dog Chains on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:29:55 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 3)

Great Diary, drew ... I didn't see that quote, but I'm glad you turned me onto it ... highly rec'd

DZ


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by DizzyQueen on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:39:59 PM EST

Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 4)

Thanks.  It was in a Wall Street Journal blog post called The Clinton Coup.

I have never seen people so obsessed with a single individual....although zerosumgame's obsession with me is getting pretty close.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:46:22 PM EST
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We tried to warn you guys about this (1.33 / 3)

LINK

The Media is going to run with the 'divided party' narrative because it has invested a lot of time and effort into it, and conflict is good for ratings.  The few kooky Clinton supporters who boo Obama or go on a rant like Harriet Christiansen will get a lot of camera time.  Count on it.  

The time to 'unite' the party was back in February when Clinton lost, not six months later at the convention.  

Look on the bright side though, you will have a nice catharsis.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:06:12 PM EST

Troll rated for being right? (none / 0)

You guys need to toughen up a bit.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:14:51 PM EST
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Re: Troll rated for being right? (2.00 / 1)

It wasn't me, but I can only guess that you were TR'd for finding a way to attack a C4O in a diary where everybody else generally agrees with the author.

I give you credit for being an asshole in name and not using your sockpuppet.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:40:03 PM EST
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Welcome! (2.00 / 1)

I was wondering when you'd crawl out from under your rock.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:37:51 PM EST
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Re: Welcome! (none / 0)

It is a blog dude.  Don't be so sensitive.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:52:29 PM EST
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Re: Welcome! (none / 0)

I said, "Welcome!"


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:57:00 PM EST
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Re: Welcome! (none / 0)

Thank you for the welcome.  Have a great night.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:00:10 PM EST
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Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 1)

This isn't a "story" it's a narrative, carefully crafted ahead of time to stir people up and give the media some DRAMA.


The universe is a casual place, not a suit-and-tie affair.
by mtnspirit on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 12:03:38 AM EST

Re: Media Fail: Convention Preview (2.00 / 2)

Sorry, Drew, couldn't initially get past the hostile stalker thread that started off the comments section, so I just posted my thoughts.  I see, reading backwards, that many others expressed this opinion far more eloquently than I did.

A word of advice...don't respond to the provocation.  It distracts from your message, which was a good one.  And a response is exactly what your ...er...friend was looking for.


The universe is a casual place, not a suit-and-tie affair.
by mtnspirit on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 12:24:38 AM EST
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The narrative is set. (none / 0)

Somehow this quote by Birnbaum:

Hillary Clinton's attempt tacitly to take over the Obama victory,

Was transformed into this, by Drew:

Party Disunity as Hillary Tries to Steal Nomination

Hillary isn't going to try to steal the nomination.  What is happening, though, is that they have intruded themselves (with Obama's acquiescence, it's true) into what should be Obama's victory moment.  It should be Obama's moment not because Obama's a cool guy and deserves to enjoy victory, but because the Democratic Party deserves to have a Democrat (Obama) win the presidency this election, and this moment of unity and victory is an important first step in the general election process.

It didn't take any backroom shenanigans to see this narrative developing.  I posted this a couple of weeks ago, when it was announced that Bill was going to get his own special day to speak.  So much of the convention is being dedicated to "honoring" the Clintons that it has to seem downright peculiar to anybody that is not so enthralled with them that they can see nothing wrong with it.

The narrative that will take hold during the convention is predictable.  The entire convention will be explained by the usual talking heads through the lens of a Clinton/Obama rift.  Does Bill still look miffed when he praises Obama?  What did Hillary REALLY mean when she said this on the podium?  Did some Hillary delegates refuse to applaud or stand when Obama took the stage?  And there will be color commentary about all the "simmering tension" backstage (real or not).  

Why?  Because the format of the convention and its renewed focus on the Clintons (the losers) creates  this melodramatic narrative.  

So, I think it's a mess waiting to happen.  Let's hope that it turns out better than that.  But we can't blame the media completely for this.  A lot of the blame for this has to lie with 1) the Clintons for not graciously exiting without all this "catharsis" and 2) the Obama campaign for acceding to all this rather than negotating to make some less obnoxious and less visible concession.


by Dumbo on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 02:14:39 AM EST

What y'all forget is that he didn't win the (1.00 / 2)

required delegates and was dragged across the finish line by SDs just as she would have been had it been her. That's the narrative - it's not Obama's victory, because he won nothing - he was SELECTED!


by suzieg on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:34:58 AM EST
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Let's flip this for just a moment. (none / 0)

What if Hillary had won the most elected delegates, fair and square, and the pledged delegates had lined up behind her, "SELECTING" her, rather than electing her, as you put it.

In such a case, wouldn't it be incumbent upon us all to try to use the convention to salute Hillary's victory (or selection, as you say) in order to give her a post convention bounce and to send her on her way into the general election?  Or would it be better to spend the convention focusing on the background melodrama of "Can the Democrats ever unite behind Hillary?"  

I hope that putting the shoe on the other foot for a moment helps illustrate the problem here.

McCain is going to come out of his convention with some kind of bounce.  What about our candidate?


by Dumbo on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:07:53 PM EST
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